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How To Start a Membership Site Part 1 of 2

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I recently spoke at Blogworld Expo on starting a membership site. The presentation features the lessons Emile and I have learned over the past year about what works and what doesn’t for launching, growing and making money with a paid membership site. (Part 2 is here.)

4 ways to watch/listen/read:

1) Listen to the audio here (click on the triangle play button):

 

2) Download the mp3 file here
3) Read the transcript (below the video)
4) Watch the video:

Transcript:

So let’s talk about the tips and tricks that we’ve learned in organizing a membership site. And the membership site that Emile and I have is called traderinterviews.com and it’s a membership site for online traders and online investors.

And one of the things we started to see about a year ago was that advertising just wasn’t cutting it. We were basically spending all of our time on the phone, selling to advertisers and it really wasn’t making us that much money. We were putting a ton of work into the site and we realized, eventually, that that was not going to be the way that we were going to make a company out of doing advertising. Because our site was niche enough that when I went out and talked to the eTrades and the Ameritrades and Schwab’s of the world, we realized that our traffic just wasn’t big enough, we were getting maybe 60,000 unique visitors a month but for those guys they want millions of visitors, they want Yahoo type audience. And so, we spent all of our time on advertising sales.

And so we decided back then, I think it was in April, to go full on with a membership site because we knew we could make a go of that.

So, if you have any questions while we are going along, I’ll try to monitor the windows here and I’ll probably do most of the question and answer toward the end.

So, we’ll get through the PowerPoint presentation here and some slides we’re going to talk about basically the things that we’ve learned in this 9 months. Things we’ve done really well, things that we’ve crashed and burned on just to give you an idea so that when you go to start your own membership site you can hopefully avoid some of our pain and take advantage of the things we did well that you can go right away to and know that they work.

So, let’s get started with that. The truth of the matter is, is that for 99% of the websites out there, the blogs out there advertising is not going to cut it. In fact, it’s probably going to be member supported sites that actually make you money for the most part. And we’re not talking about $50.00 a month or $100.00 a month on affiliate ads, we’re talking about trying to do quit your job kind of money. Because I think that’s the kind of business’s that I’d like to see happen with the membership site.

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10 Things I Learned This Summer About Growing a Membership Site

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Here in Southern California, kids everywhere will be heading back to school next week (including my 11-year old daughter). In sympathy with all of whom will, no doubt, be required to write an essay about what they did this summer in English class, I decided to write my own essay about what I learned these past few months.

But first, a little back-story for those new to MemberCon.

I started my membership site for online investors and traders (TraderInterviews.com) back in March. Prior to converting it to a paid site, it was advertiser-supported. That is to say that I made about $200 a month from cranky advertisers and Google AdSense. So perhaps a better phrase to describe it than “ad-supported” would be “ad-supplemented – barely.”

I also found myself on the phone constantly with advertisers who wanted to know just a single number: unique visitors. I don’t blame them. Believe it or not, most die-hard marketing people are still stuck in 1999 and are simply looking for pure traffic. For whatever reason, they talk all day about quality, yet they still base their decisions on just pure volume.

I’d enthusiastically answer, “I get about 12,000 unique visitors per month and about 60,000 page views!”

Silence.

12,000 unique visitors and 60,000 just wasn’t enough traffic to make it worthwhile for either of us. A CPM model wasn’t going to pay me enough to put all the time into creating the unique content, and it wasn’t enough traffic for them to bother, regardless of how highly-targeted my visitors were.

At some point during one of those hundreds of sales calls when I was trying to convince a company to spend $500 and getting nowhere, I realized that a membership model would be a much better fit. I also realized that I needed to document all of the decisions and ideas I had along the way which I am doing on my blog at MemberCon.com

So here are the 10 things I learned this summer running my membership site:

1. For 99% of the content sites owned by individuals, the membership model will always make more money than an ad-supported model.
The trouble with a small content site is that you’re stuck in this advertising dead zone. You’re not big enough to attract consistent advertising or even an ad network company to sell ads for you. But you’re not going to make enough money with AdSense to make it worth your time. If you produce high-quality content for an audience willing to pay for it, immediately switch to a membership model. I guarantee you’ll do much better even with just a few members than you will trying to make money on a CPM model. My income from the membership site is more predictable and I’m making a lot more money now that I have made the switch. I also don’t have to cold call advertisers anymore which I hated.

2. Email is still king when it comes to sales
This one still surprises me. With everyone talking about Twitter, Facebook and every other form of social media (and we use all of them), marketing to our email still blows them all away when it comes to sales. If you aren’t building an email newsletter list right now, start immediately. Create a 2-3 page report with great tips and information and use it as a carrot to get people to sign up for your newsletter. Offers I make to my email list convert better than a blog post, Tweets or all other social media – combined.

3. The fastest way to build an email list is a “lightbox” on every page of your site
You’ve probably seen them before. The “lights” go down on your site behind the box which offers something of value in return for their email address. Usually you can customize it to present itself immediately when the visitor comes to your home page, after a few seconds, or when they leave. I’ve found that immediately is too soon, when they leave is often too late and after about 6 seconds on the site is perfect. With the exception of pages where you want your visitor to take some sort of action (like signing up as a member), put your lightbox on every page. We had a signup form for our newsletter in the left margin of every page for months and averaged 2-3 emails per day. We put the lightbox up and it immediately jumped to 25-30 emails per day. It works. Anyone who complains wouldn’t have bought anything from you anyway.

4. The more you email your list, the more money you will make
Now before you gag on your donut, I’m not talking about spamming your list every hour with junk. But I am saying that when we started emailing our list every day, membership sales increased dramatically. Every email doesn’t have to be a pitch for something. It can be your thoughts and a link to an interesting article or blog post without any offer at all. But there is something about getting a regular email every day that garners familiarity with your membership product and site. When you don’t send regular emails, your subscribers are less likely to become members because they don’t feel like they know you. I wouldn’t send more often than daily but don’t ever send less than every other day to your list.

5. Don’t stress out over people who unsubscribe from your blog or email newsletter
I used to get all worked up every time I sent an email and saw a few people unsubscribe. Or if my RSS subscriber number went down my head would nearly explode. No matter how great the content of your email or blog post, people are going to leave. You could give away the secret formula for Coca-Cola and tell them that in the next email you’re going to reveal who really killed JFK and you’d have people unsubscribe. The fact is, those folks were never going to become members or buy anything you offered them anyway. If they don’t think your free content is worth sticking around for, let them leave. Your conversion numbers will improve because only the people that are truly into what you are offering will stick around. Because I outsource my email newsletter delivery, I pay for every subscriber. I don’t want people on the list if they aren’t interested. Stop trying to figure out why some people leave and just continue creating awesome content.

6. Stop trying to make every single Tweet, blog post or email message a home run
How many times have you worked on a single blog post for hours and hours trying to get each sentence just perfect? You adjust here, adjust there, so that your slight sarcasm comes through just right. And you want to end with a bang, so you work on that last sentence for 45 minutes. By the way, 140 characters shouldn’t take you 140 minutes to write. Enough! We’re not after the Pulitzer Prize here, folks. If you want to be a journalist, go work in journalism. If you want to grow a successful membership site, get your message out often and don’t worry about perfection. Your readers would rather have a post or email message with a few dangling participles than no post at all. So stop pushing the “Draft” button in WordPress and push the “Publish” button instead!

7. The best way to “sell” something is to tell a story
I’m not just talking about selling a product, although it works wonderfully for that. But if you want to “sell” an idea, an argument, or your membership site, the most effective way to engage your audience is to tell them a story. Don Hewitt, the creator of 60 Minutes who passed away last week, was a master of this (see my post about it here with videos). No matter what issue they were covering, he knew that the best way to get the message across was to tell it as a story. In fact, I would argue that telling a story about why you started your site and a few mistakes you made along the way will help you sell four times as many memberships than if you simply gave a bullet point list outlining the benefits of joining.

8. No matter how awesome your content, without something to create urgency, it won’t sell
When I first started my membership site, I had been creating a library of great content for several months. This was high-value stuff that really delivered great information to my visitors. The content we have behind our membership wall is outstanding and worth many times what we charge. I truly believe that and I get emails from members who agree. So when we launched I figured the value would sell itself. Cue the crickets. Unless you use some sort of deadline to get a value-added e-book, or a create urgency by getting a discount if they sign up within 24 hours, even great content won’t sell itself consistently. Some people close their sites and only open once per quarter for new members. We use discounts with strict deadlines. You have to create urgency with time deadlines and ideally, combine that with scarcity by limiting how many people can join in order to really get lift.

9. Whatever you are thinking about charging, triple it
It’s very easy to fall into the trap of thinking that the more you charge for your content, the less people are going to buy. It’s simply not true. In fact, the cheaper your monthly fee, the less people value it and will actually not become a member simply because they don’t believe the value is there. This is not to say that you can charge $399 per month for membership site about gardening. But I can guarantee you that if you think $9 a month is what gardeners will pay, they’ll pay $27. And don’t bother surveying your audience to ask what they would pay. Nearly everyone who responds will say they would never pay a dime. The people who WILL pay for your content aren’t going to tell you such, they just enter their credit card number and become members. If you have a free site and convert it into a paid membership site, you WILL hear complaints. Ignore them – they would never become members anyway. Instead concentrate on delivering tremendous value to your paying subscribers and those numbers will grow. Don’t undervalue your content and neither will your prospective members.

10. The absolute minimum number of blog readers or email newsletter subscribers you need to start a membership site is….ONE
People constantly ask me now many subscribers or readers they need to have before they launch their site. The number is actually zero. My most successful membership site is about the content and not the community, so I’ve never had a forum or message board so I didn’t have to worry about it being a ghost town. Of course, you’ve got to have something behind your membership wall, so you’ll need to create some content to get it started (articles, podcasts, screencasts, videos, etc.) but if you wait until you have” X” number of subscribers (whatever you think “X” needs to be) you’ll never do it. Instead, offer a Charter Member price at a lower rate as a thanks to members who come on board early. As long as they stay members they keep that same low rate. It helps with your member retention and offers them a “thank you” price for joining when you didn’t have months of articles and other content already built.

When I hear everything online is headed toward being “free,” I chuckle a bit. Your content only “has” to be free if you want it to be. But if you want to get paid for all the hard work you’re putting into your website, take action and turn it into a membership site.

The day I decided to ignore everyone who told me that “content wants to be free” was the day my business really got started.

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Email Really IS Still King in Conversion and Sales

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When I interviewed Paul Colligan a while back, I asked him of all the tools out there to sell online content, what was working best? Without hesitation, he said EMAIL.

I was a bit shocked. Old-fashioned, “been around forever”, everyone-knows-how-to-use-it email? I thought surely RSS, Facebook, Twitter or some other form of social networking had taken over. After all, that’s all anyone talks about it seems. Paul knows what he’s talking about, but I’m one of those types that has to see it for myself to believe it.

So over the past few months Emile and I have been conducting our own experiments to see what converts to sales best.

Paul was right. As in BIG TIME right.

It’s convinced us that building our email list is the single-most important use of our resources. We do spend a lot of time on our website, but all of that time lately has been spent figuring out how to make our website build our email list faster.

If you’re selling anything online or simply want attention for something you are doing online, trust me on this. Build your email list and mail to it at least every other day.

You’ll get the response you are looking for.

We’re just starting to work on a way to build in daily urgency to buy with our email list. More on that later…

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How To Use a Podcast To Build Your Sales Funnel

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Jason Van Orden has been making a living online through membership sites and selling premium content for several years. In this case study interview, I talk with Jason about his model for finding new opportunities for membership sites, how he sets pricing, and how his sales funnel works to continually bring in new members.

Watch the video below or download the mp3 file for audio only.

Transcript:

MemberCon.com: I’m here with Jason Van Orden today, and I’ve known Jason for a few years, first through podcasting in the Podcast Expo Show that I started a few years ago and just wanted get Jason on the phone for a few minutes and talk to him about his membership sites and what he’s been working because he has really built a reputation for himself over the last few years as someone who really knows the stuff in terms of Internet marketing and membership sites overall. So Jason thanks for joining me on the phone today.

Jason Van Orden: Not a problem Tim, always a pleasure.

MemberCon.com: So how many membership sites do you own or are you part of right now?

Jason Van Orden: Well right now, I have one that’s active called the Internet Business Mastery Academy, and then here in the near future I’m going to be duplicating that model and launching something called the New Media Mastermind and that will be my second full-pledged membership site.

MemberCon.com: OK. So you’re definitely sold on the idea of membership sites as a business model?

Jason Van Orden: Absolutely. It’s definitely treating me very well. There’s lots of great advantages. I love that continuous income coming in. Its something that could be very systematized and after I launched the first one last year, it’s been almost a year now, and I just continue to grow and grow. And once I saw the immediate success of it I was asking myself why I hadn’t done it a year or more earlier. So, yeah, definitely I’ve been very pleased with the results and all of the benefits that it’s offered to my business brand and just bringing value to my customers in my community.

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How To Build Your Email List Without Annoying Your Website Visitors

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Emile and I have talked about, tested and tried a variety of different ways to build our email newsletter list and we’ve hit upon a way that really works. We’ve also found a few things that simply don’t work – and one of them is having an email newsletter sign up box at the left top of every page.

For several years, we’ve had the sign up box on every single page of TraderInterviews.com and a few of our other sites in the top left corner just below the header and under the main navigation. On a good day, we’d get 5 or 6 new subscribers to the free newsletter. It just wasn’t working.

I was skeptical to try anything that was more “in your face” for fear of driving our visitors away. But with 2009 being the year where we agreed to do whatever it takes to make our sites successful, we installed the Action Popup lightbox on several of our sites and held our breath. It instantly resulted in 25-30 new subscribers every day on sites that don’t have a ton of traffic yet. It simply worked and has done more to increase our newsletter subscribers quickly than anything else we’ve tried. And according to Google Analytics, our bounce rate on our home page (the percentage of visitors who visit the home page and leave without visiting any other page on the site) hasn’t risen.

The great thing about this particular script is that you can tell it when you want the lightbox to appear:

1) Right away (as soon as the page is done loading)
2) After a specific number of seconds (we think 7 seconds is working well but we’re still testing)
3) When they go to leave your site (by clicking on the browser back button or clicking an outbound link)

Are some visitors annoyed by the lightbox? At least one was. I received this email last week:

I found your Web site by searching for “small business podcast” as I’m looking for some new podcasts to listen to. However because the first thing that happened was a box asking for my details that I had to close, before I could even see the quality of the site content I won’t be listening to your podcast.

Fair enough. I thanked him for his feedback. Turns out he’s a “home page usability expert” so perhaps there were ulterior motives for letting me know.

On the other hand, I can’t argue with the data – the light box is working so it stays. On that particular site, we had the lightbox appearing almost immediately when the visitor came to the site so we’ve backed it off to 7 seconds and haven’t had a complaint since.

The bottom line for us: although it may annoy some visitors, the lightbox is working and it’s worth implementing on all our sites which we’ve done. My sense is that the people who are most annoyed are the same folks who get riled up at the sight of a single banner ad – believing that all content online should be free – and thus aren’t our target market anyway.

One note: We have seen that when we offer a free report or eBook and show the cover in the lightbox, the number of people subscribing goes way up. The more general “Subscribe to our email newsletter for expert tips and tricks” doesn’t convert as well. So be sure to offer a free report or other piece of content they can’t get elsewhere and you’ll see your conversion go much higher.

Now I need to figure out what we’re going to give away on this site!

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